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Anthony Yiu's avatar

Hi Devin, appreciate your detailed analysis. May I get your view on these issues please?

1. While MO's data (Source: Circana Info Scan Cigarette 2023) showed that BAT's premium share declined by 0.5 pp from 32.2% in Q2 2022 to 31.7% in Q2 2023, BAT claimed that its share of the premium segment "grew to its highest point in three years". How do you reconcile the difference?

2. While MO has Marlboro Black to mitigate down trading pressure during recession / hyper inflation, BAT's Newport doesn't employ similar strategy to keep their less affluent customers engaged, but rather launched branded discount products such as Lucky Strike in response to the macro environment. When macro improves, do you think there will be a structural shift of market share to MO from BAT in the premium segment? (i.e. converting Marlboro Black customers to mainline Marlboro seems to be more frictionless than converting customers who down-traded to Lucky Strike or other deep discount brands to Newport)

3. Employee review rating and CEO approval rating on Glassdoor showed quite a huge discrepancy between Altria and Reynolds American. Does it concern you that, a corporation with unsettling employees may inevitably lead to weaker execution as compared to competitors? Sometimes I feel quite uncomfortable that BAT keeps parachuting senior executives with almost no U.S. FMCG retail experience to head Reynolds American (Ricardo Oberlander --> Guy Meldrum --> David Waterfield). When the market landscape is stable, it is ok. But when there's paradigm shift, such weakness could be exacerbated. In particular, it seems Altria and Billy know exactly what to do with downtrading as Billy remembered every detail from '08 - '09 and 01' - '02 and he knows which levers to pull in order to emerge stronger after the current hyper inflation period. In comparison, the senior executives of BAT look a bit clueless?

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Hunter's avatar

Really fascinating discussion of the dividend policy. I am fan of dividends over buybacks and I think Altria will be a good case study in the distinction.

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