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Tian Wen's avatar

I was one of those aggrieved Swedish Match shareholders, so I appreciate your empathy Devin! I agree with you, Zyn’s growth in the US has been astounding.

You’ve written a lot recently about nicotine prohibitionists would like nicotine to simply go away, instead of embracing harm reduction. I think they had the advantage the past few decades because (a) well educated and high income Americans now smoke at much, much lower rates than poor or less educated Americans and (b) well educated citizens have an outsized influence on political outcomes. For instance, if banning vaping flavors makes cigarette smokers less likely to switch, it’s not the well educated who suffer the consequences.

Nicotine pouches are a different ballgame. They appeal to professionals working in the finance, tech, and media industries, for the reasons you describe. Figures like Peter Thiel, Peter Attia and Andrew Huberman have discussed their risks and benefits.

Here are the first two paragraphs of a recent Bloomberg News article on Zyn. Try to imagine someone saying the same thing about cigarettes:

> Whenever Mark Moran, chief executive officer of the investor relations firm Equity Animal, is about to perform a boring task, he has a ritual. He pops a Zyn nicotine pouch into his mouth. Then his concentration sharpens, at least for a while. “Am I addicted to it? Absolutely,” he said. “But it’s something I very much enjoy.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-31/zyn-lucy-nicotine-pouches-gain-traction-with-office-workers

If a critical mass of high powered professionals start using pouches, I don’t think politically the FDA or Congress will be able to ban them. We may already have reached that point, based on the the pushback that Senator Schumer got after his remarks last January, which you also covered.

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PM forward P/E 14

Bat forward P/E 6

Sorry but never ever is PM 2.33x better then Bats…

Still IMB/BAT > PM.

PM better business but worse stock then Bat/Imb.

I hope you also do a update on altria. Because after the earnings report for me MO is the worst tobacco stock now. Revenue decline + -10% volume decline again + market share lost in several categories. Would be interested if you are still invested in altria.

I think you dont talk about portfolio positions but I would bet altria is your smallest position …

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